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	<title>Comments on: My Feisty regressions, what are yours?</title>
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		<title>By: Ronda</title>
		<link>http://www.ubuntudaily.com/2007/04/15/my-feisty-regressions-what-are-yours/comment-page-1/#comment-83</link>
		<dc:creator>Ronda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 10:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ATI drivers don&#039;t work either (they used to work in Feisty beta&#039;s). Wonder what went wrong. I hope they make a 7.04.1 release quick to correct these silly but absolutely disturbing issues. I almost showed Ubuntu to a client and I&#039;m glad I decided to test it first... :&#124;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ATI drivers don&#8217;t work either (they used to work in Feisty beta&#8217;s). Wonder what went wrong. I hope they make a 7.04.1 release quick to correct these silly but absolutely disturbing issues. I almost showed Ubuntu to a client and I&#8217;m glad I decided to test it first&#8230; <img src='http://www.ubuntudaily.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':|' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Eric TF Bat</title>
		<link>http://www.ubuntudaily.com/2007/04/15/my-feisty-regressions-what-are-yours/comment-page-1/#comment-63</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric TF Bat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 13:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel your pain.  Feisty handles suspend/hibernate and wireless stuff far better than Edgy, and there are little cosmetic improvements everywhere, but that&#039;s all the good news.  VMWare Player doesn&#039;t work at all -- it won&#039;t run after I reboot unless I reconfigure, and it broke my net connection -- but you expect that with proprietary software.  But the failure to automount is a serious problem, especially since even manually mounting doesn&#039;t seem to work completely.  It really looks like the people behind Ubuntu decided to imitate Windows Vista here: it&#039;s not remotely ready for release, and they should be sacked and replaced by people with some understanding of regression testing.

And no, I don&#039;t think the Ubuntu forums are any good.  They&#039;re filled with people complaining about the same problems, but people who actually have solutions are nowhere to be seen.  Ugly, ugly situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel your pain.  Feisty handles suspend/hibernate and wireless stuff far better than Edgy, and there are little cosmetic improvements everywhere, but that&#8217;s all the good news.  VMWare Player doesn&#8217;t work at all &#8212; it won&#8217;t run after I reboot unless I reconfigure, and it broke my net connection &#8212; but you expect that with proprietary software.  But the failure to automount is a serious problem, especially since even manually mounting doesn&#8217;t seem to work completely.  It really looks like the people behind Ubuntu decided to imitate Windows Vista here: it&#8217;s not remotely ready for release, and they should be sacked and replaced by people with some understanding of regression testing.</p>
<p>And no, I don&#8217;t think the Ubuntu forums are any good.  They&#8217;re filled with people complaining about the same problems, but people who actually have solutions are nowhere to be seen.  Ugly, ugly situation.</p>
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		<title>By: j</title>
		<link>http://www.ubuntudaily.com/2007/04/15/my-feisty-regressions-what-are-yours/comment-page-1/#comment-54</link>
		<dc:creator>j</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 14:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nvidia drivers, RAID arrays vanished, gnome main menu resized itself to 3x3 pixels, network connections is strange: e.g. will it work this reboot or not? (Have to change IP number, then change it back.) I ended up booting the 2.6.20-15-386 kernel with nvidia drivers, but now I only have 1 core on my CPU. Time spent so far: 16 real time hours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nvidia drivers, RAID arrays vanished, gnome main menu resized itself to 3&#215;3 pixels, network connections is strange: e.g. will it work this reboot or not? (Have to change IP number, then change it back.) I ended up booting the 2.6.20-15-386 kernel with nvidia drivers, but now I only have 1 core on my CPU. Time spent so far: 16 real time hours.</p>
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		<title>By: groggyboy</title>
		<link>http://www.ubuntudaily.com/2007/04/15/my-feisty-regressions-what-are-yours/comment-page-1/#comment-45</link>
		<dc:creator>groggyboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also have been having problems with totem&#039;s firefox plugin.  in the end, i switched to mplayer for firefox.  i don&#039;t believe this is a regression, however.  my roommate has edgy on his computer, and totem was causing him the same firefox grief.  so yeah, purge totem-mozilla from your system, and install the mozilla-mplayer package instead.  as far as standalone players go, totem and mplayer perform about the same for me.  a previous poster also suggested vlc, but that program has never played nice with beryl in my experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also have been having problems with totem&#8217;s firefox plugin.  in the end, i switched to mplayer for firefox.  i don&#8217;t believe this is a regression, however.  my roommate has edgy on his computer, and totem was causing him the same firefox grief.  so yeah, purge totem-mozilla from your system, and install the mozilla-mplayer package instead.  as far as standalone players go, totem and mplayer perform about the same for me.  a previous poster also suggested vlc, but that program has never played nice with beryl in my experience.</p>
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		<title>By: immrlizard</title>
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		<dc:creator>immrlizard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 13:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only bug that I have had was when I was connected with a static connection it showed the connection as disconnected but the connection still worked.   When I was connected DHCP it would show that it was connected properly.   With yesterday&#039;s update, it was fixed.   I have been on board with feisty since herd3.    I am really enjoying 7.04.     I had a lot of problems with 6.1 so I went back to 6.06 until Feisty herd3.  For those out there still having problems, that list is getting shorter.   They have doe a great job with this version IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only bug that I have had was when I was connected with a static connection it showed the connection as disconnected but the connection still worked.   When I was connected DHCP it would show that it was connected properly.   With yesterday&#8217;s update, it was fixed.   I have been on board with feisty since herd3.    I am really enjoying 7.04.     I had a lot of problems with 6.1 so I went back to 6.06 until Feisty herd3.  For those out there still having problems, that list is getting shorter.   They have doe a great job with this version IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 18:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anders Jacobsen:
Thank you for your suggestions, although I am aware of Launchpad and already used it to research my bugs I realized that I can do a little bit more.

But here a more detailed response:

1. There are lots and lots of bug reports on launchpad about this and many discussions in the Ubuntu forums. The bug I am experiencing has defintely been reported and thought it would be the best not to add a new report unless I really have to contribute something, which I haven&#039;t.
2. It is IDE and has its own controller. I will dig a little deeper in the launchpad for this one and post the information you suggested.
3. The Nvidia drivers have been updated, but I still have the appropriate restricted-modules package for my kernel, so it should work as I understand it, but don&#039;t quote me on that one
4. It&#039;s definately not a codec problem, the Totem standalone player (i.e. not the plugin) works just fine. I opened a bug report:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/107050</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anders Jacobsen:<br />
Thank you for your suggestions, although I am aware of Launchpad and already used it to research my bugs I realized that I can do a little bit more.</p>
<p>But here a more detailed response:</p>
<p>1. There are lots and lots of bug reports on launchpad about this and many discussions in the Ubuntu forums. The bug I am experiencing has defintely been reported and thought it would be the best not to add a new report unless I really have to contribute something, which I haven&#8217;t.<br />
2. It is IDE and has its own controller. I will dig a little deeper in the launchpad for this one and post the information you suggested.<br />
3. The Nvidia drivers have been updated, but I still have the appropriate restricted-modules package for my kernel, so it should work as I understand it, but don&#8217;t quote me on that one<br />
4. It&#8217;s definately not a codec problem, the Totem standalone player (i.e. not the plugin) works just fine. I opened a bug report:<br />
<a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/107050" rel="nofollow">https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/107050</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anders Jacobsen</title>
		<link>http://www.ubuntudaily.com/2007/04/15/my-feisty-regressions-what-are-yours/comment-page-1/#comment-40</link>
		<dc:creator>Anders Jacobsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tim, 

I&#039;ve had some of the same experiences, but it helps to be constructive about it:

1: check launchpad.net for bugs that sound similar and post your vital details there for the kernel developers to help debug what&#039;s going wrong (I had exactly similar experiences with some of the kernels):
try e.g.:
&lt;a href=&quot;https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/97325&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/97325&lt;/a&gt;

2: is the DVD player SATA or IDE? Is it connected to the same controller as your /home drive? If yes to the latter question, this may be related to your bug#1. Again: post your details (e.g. output of the dmesg and lspci -vvn commands) on launchpad

3: Your nvidia drivers / linux kernel restricted modules MIGHT have been updated along with your kernel to a later version, which would cause this problem. Check ubuntuforums for more info on quick fixes

4: Try visiting &lt;a href=&quot;https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tim, </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had some of the same experiences, but it helps to be constructive about it:</p>
<p>1: check launchpad.net for bugs that sound similar and post your vital details there for the kernel developers to help debug what&#8217;s going wrong (I had exactly similar experiences with some of the kernels):<br />
try e.g.:<br />
<a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/97325" rel="nofollow">https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/97325</a></p>
<p>2: is the DVD player SATA or IDE? Is it connected to the same controller as your /home drive? If yes to the latter question, this may be related to your bug#1. Again: post your details (e.g. output of the dmesg and lspci -vvn commands) on launchpad</p>
<p>3: Your nvidia drivers / linux kernel restricted modules MIGHT have been updated along with your kernel to a later version, which would cause this problem. Check ubuntuforums for more info on quick fixes</p>
<p>4: Try visiting <a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats" rel="nofollow">https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats</a></p>
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		<title>By: Vincent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vincent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 08:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that you make me think about it... No, I have not had any problems with Xubuntu Feisty at all! That&#039;s cool!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that you make me think about it&#8230; No, I have not had any problems with Xubuntu Feisty at all! That&#8217;s cool!</p>
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		<title>By: tallman</title>
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		<dc:creator>tallman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 06:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Had no issues so far with Feisty.

Currently, I&#039;m using 2.6.20-14 kernel, and it just works.
Yesterday I used my dvd drive with no problems - it just worked.
Can&#039;t speak about the Nvidia drivers though....maybe they do have bugs, but they are not FLOSS.
I don&#039;t use Totem; Mplayer, Gxine, Xine-ui work perfectly for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Had no issues so far with Feisty.</p>
<p>Currently, I&#8217;m using 2.6.20-14 kernel, and it just works.<br />
Yesterday I used my dvd drive with no problems &#8211; it just worked.<br />
Can&#8217;t speak about the Nvidia drivers though&#8230;.maybe they do have bugs, but they are not FLOSS.<br />
I don&#8217;t use Totem; Mplayer, Gxine, Xine-ui work perfectly for me.</p>
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		<title>By: nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2007 23:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everything in the feisty beta works fine for me

kernel 2.6.20-15 works completely fine for me. I never had an error with 14 either. My dvd drive works, I use intel graphics and those work fine and I don&#039;t use totem for video, I use mplayer and vlc player. Mplayer for wmv and real media (and streaming) and vlc player for avi, mpeg, and anything else I may come across.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everything in the feisty beta works fine for me</p>
<p>kernel 2.6.20-15 works completely fine for me. I never had an error with 14 either. My dvd drive works, I use intel graphics and those work fine and I don&#8217;t use totem for video, I use mplayer and vlc player. Mplayer for wmv and real media (and streaming) and vlc player for avi, mpeg, and anything else I may come across.</p>
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